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The North Korean Air Force by Google Earth

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North Korea’s airfields are some of the most interesting places to spy on, and often, some of the easiest to spot.  Generally, you can see a large airfield from about 10 miles up, with or without high resolution coverage.  Although you can’t identify aircraft without high resolution, as you will see, even with high resolution, the image quality varies from disappointingly blurry to remarkably crisp.

I cross-referenced much of what I saw here with Global Security, an excellent source generally, although its limitions when it comes to North Korea are both clear and understandable.  Some of the airfields Global Security marks don’t exist where noted, and in at least one case, I was able to identify a type of large transport helicopter that they don’t list in the North Korean inventory.  Thus, in some cases, and thanks to the miracle of Google Earth, this post may actually be more definitive and authoritative — though less complete — than the information on the Global Security site, and should at least be read as a supplement to it.  Here’s a quote from Global Security’s summary and analysis of the North Korean Peoples’ Army Air Force:

As of 1996 the North Korean air force consisted of six air divisions under the direct control of the national Air Command: three are composed of fighter wings, two of transportation wings, and one for fighter training.

North Korea has approximately seventy air bases, including jet and non-jet capable bases and emergency landing strips, with aircraft deployed to between twenty and thirty of them. The majority of tactical aircraft are concentrated at air bases around P’yongyang and in the southern provinces. P’yongyang can place almost all its military aircraft in hardened–mostly underground–shelters. North Korean aircraft are sheltered in underground hangars and plenty of runways are available. In the KPDR there is absolutely no private vehicle ownership but many highways with concrete surfaces and arched reinforced concrete tunnels (for example the superhighway linking Pyongyang with Wonsan), that in case of hostilities are sure to be used as military airfields. It thus seems highly improbable that the NKAF would be knocked out in one strike. North Korea deployed about fifty percent of its fighters in the front area which makes a possible surprise attack to all areas of South Korea. In 1990-91, North Korea activated four forward air bases near the DMZ, which increased its initial southward reach and decreased warning and reaction times for Seoul.

More than 420 fighters, bombers, transport planes, and helicopters were redeployed in October 1995, and more than 100 aircraft were moved forward to the three air bases near the DMZ. More than 20 Il-28 bombers were moved to Taetan which shortened their arrival time to Seoul from 30 minutes to 10 minutes. Over 80 MiG-17s redeployed to Nuchonri and Kuupri are able to attack Seoul in 6 minutes. By these redeployments North Korea intends to make a first strike with outdated MiG-17s and the second strike with mainstay fighters such as MiG-21s and Su-25s.

Here’s an overview of the North Korean military airfields that can be seen on Google Earth. What’s most notable is the nearly complete absence of civil aviation.

af-overview.jpg

Those with numbers assigned are visible with high resolution.  Those simply marked “airfield” are visible with low resolution only.  Numbers in bold below correspond to the numbers marked on the overview map above.

1:  MiG-17’s and 19’s are two of the three most common fighter aircraft on North Korean airfields.  The 17’s have the stubby wings with the rounded ends; the 19’s are more sharply swept and angular.

af-mig-19-1.jpg    af-mig-17s-and-19s.jpg

2:  The other common type is the MiG-21, with its distinctive delta-shaped wing.  Kim Jong Il purchased 40 of these from Kazakhstan at the height of the Great Famine, when people were wandering in from the countryside and dying in heaps in front of train stations.  Some of the MiG-21’s pictured here may be Chinese-made F-7’s, which have slight extensions on their wingtips.  According to the Global Security map, this is Chunghwa AB.

af-11.jpg    af-2.jpg

Frequently, the MiG-21’s you see don’t appear to be in working order.  Some are clearly stripped of parts, decaying, or even sitting in ponds of standing water.  Many appear to be mere decoys.

af-2-mig-21-wrecks.jpg

You can see a better close-up view at the airfield marked 13.  The planes on the left are MiG-17’s.

af-13.jpg

3:  These swing-wing fighters are probably MiG-23’s.  Global Security doesn’t list North Korea as having the only other aircraft this could be, the MiG-27, which is based on the same airframe and indistinguishable from the MiG-23 with this resolution.  The 23 is a fighter; the 27 is a ground-attack aircraft, and much more advanced.

af-mig-23-2.jpg

4:  There are thirty of these blurry things, and if you can identify them, you know something I don’t.  The don’t look like any of the older MiG or Sukhoi models.  Could these be North Korea’s MiG-29’s?  Or could they be something else entirely?  The image quality isn’t good enough to even make a firm guess.

af-8-possible-mig-29s.jpg

Global Security identifies this location as the Headquarters of the 1st Air Combat Command, Kaechon AB.

5:  You can see many more MiG 17’s, 19’s, and 21’s here, at Wonsan AB, right next to what I believe is one of Kim Jong Il’s palaces.  See also the location marked 13.

6:  I found large bombers in one location, at an airfield near Sinuiju.  These ancient leviathans are Il-28 “Beagles,” first flown by the Soviets in 1948.  The Chinese built their own version of the Beagle under license as the H-5.  You can still see a number of these on Chinese airfields.

Global Security claims that North Korea has 80 Il-28’s.  You can see more than 40 on this airfield.  The others could be underground, or there could be another airfield, such as the Taetan airfield to which Global Security refers in its summary.

Note that half of the airfield was imaged during summer and half during the winter (thus, we could be counting some planes twice, and some not at all).  In the second image, you can see a camouflage net at the end of the taxiway, covering the entrance to what may be an underground hangar.  In the third image, the Beagles’ Klimov VK-1 turbojet engines have blown and melted the snow right off the ground.

af-il-28-1.jpg   af-il-28-3.jpg   af-il-28-2.jpg

7:  These are the only helicopters I’ve found in North Korea, and I’ve searched far and wide.  If you’ve found others, by all means, please tell me where.  This is a group of about a dozen Mil-8 utility helicopters and a few Mil-4 observation helicopters.  According to Global Security, North Korea only has 15 Mil-8’s.  [See update below.]

af-mi-8-2.jpg   af-mi-4-1.jpg   af-mi-8-1.jpg

These four very large craft that appear to be Mil-26’s.  The Mil-26 is the largest and most powerful helicopter in the world, according to the Federation of American Scientists.

af-mi-26.jpg

Interestingly, Global Security does not list North Korea as having any of these — or any other large helicopter — in its inventory.  Thus, with the exception of a large number of tiny Mil-2 Hoplites, you’re looking at a good share of the North Korean helicopter force right here.

Equally interesting:  were an insurgency to break out in North Korea, the government could count on neither a good network of roads nor a large force of helicopters.  That means that if insurgents could be supplied with food, arms, and ammunition in a remote area, the army would have trouble accessing them, and probably couldn’t count on much support from road-bound armor or artillery, either.

8:  Here are some of the An-2 “Colt” biplanes that North Korea uses for both civilian and military purposes.  Reportedly, some of these biplanes were built in North Korea under license.  Don’t underestimate them because they’re biplanes.  Though old and slow, they have an amazing amount of lift and can take off and land on very small unimproved runways.  With their wood and fabric structure, they’re also very difficult to detect on radar.  In the event of war, North Korea would use them for the delivery of special forces and paratroopers for deep penetration missions.  These are at a small airstrip and could be for civilian use.

af-an-2-2.jpg   af-an-2-1.jpg

9:  These, however, clearly appear to be for military use, judging by the revetments in which they’re parked.

af-3-an-2-colts.jpg

10:  The North Koreans are second to none at tunneling, and here is one of two front-line airfields — see also number 14 – where you can’t see any working aircraft on the surface, but you can clearly see the underground hangars at the ends of the curved taxiways leading from the main airfield.  See also the airfield marked 15.

af-ugf-hangar-1.jpg   af-ugfs-at-end-of-runway-no-working-aircraft-visible.jpg

11:  The most modern aircraft I’ve seen in North Korea is the Su-25 ground attack aircraft, which was first used in combat by the Soviet Air Force in Afghanistan.  North Korea has about 30 of them, according to Global Security.  If so, this appears to be most of them.

af-su-25s.jpg   af-su-25-2.jpg

If the Soviets first deployed the Su-25 in the mid-1980’s, you would think that the North Koreans wouldn’t have gotten them until the mid-1990’s.  That happens to correspond to the beginning of North Korea’s Great Famine, which killed approximately 2 million people, most of them between 1994 and 1998.  North Korea’s agricultural production and food supply have never recovered, and it remains dependent on the aid of the same neighbors it threatens.  It has received approximately $200 million in international food aid from the U.N. World Food Program alone each year ever since (until it kicked out most of the World Food Program staff at the end of 2005).  Assuming a unit cost of $12 million per aircraft and accessories, you’re looking at approximately $216 million worth of Russian airplanes.  That’s enough to feed all of the 6.5 million North Koreans included in a typical year’s World Food Program appeal for a year, with enough left over to throw in some extra sugar rations.

12:  Finally, here is an aircraft that confused me for some time because of its familiarity to World War II vets, airplane enthusiasts, and dope smugglers everywhere.  Clearly, this is a DC-3, a/k/a C-47, right?

af-12-li-2s.jpg

Close.  On further research, I learned that the Soviets built a copy of the DC-3 under license as the Lisunov Li-2.  That appears to be what we have here.

Update:  NK Econ Watch points out this helipad in the middle of Pyongyang, 2 miles East by Southeast of the May Day Stadium, on the North bank of the Taedong River.  There are six Mil-8 Hips sitting on the tarmac.

af-hip.jpg

Update 2:  Here’s an underground runway being built right through a mountain:

ugf-1.jpg     ugf2.jpg     ugf3.jpg     ugf4.jpg      ugf5.jpg

More commentary on this site here.

Mark said,

April 29, 2007 @ 4:43 pm

Global Security contains generally obsolete data…I only use it as a last resort.

This post is a keeper….

NKeconWatch said,

April 29, 2007 @ 5:34 pm

Hey Joshua,

There is also a helipad in Pyongyang, along the north shore of the Taedong River just east of the May Day Stadium…

The Conjecturer » News Brief, I’ve Seen It All Edition said,

April 30, 2007 @ 4:56 pm

[…] A look at the North Korean Air Force, courtesy Google Earth. […]

A Second Hand Conjecture » News Brief, I’ve Seen It All Edition said,

April 30, 2007 @ 4:58 pm

[…] A look at the North Korean Air Force, courtesy Google Earth. […]

Chris said,

May 20, 2007 @ 5:51 pm

The picture of the possible MiG-29s looks more like MiG-23s to me. Look at the aircraft all the way over on the left, its wings are in the half-swept position. The blur is probably due to the sun shining on a bare-metal finish.

I know they have 29s. Remember when they intercepted a US ELINT aircraft? My guess is that the MiG-29s are kept out of sight.

You’ve got some very interestng pictures on this site. I too have spent *hours* looking at google imagry of the DPRK and have found many of the same things. I also wondered what that pyramid North of Pyonyang was! I was not successful at finding Dear Leader’s palace compound to the North though.

If you haven’t already, there is a naval base with submarines (Romeos and Sang-o types) near Sinpo on the East coast. They are located on an island. This is North of Wonson but South of Kimchaek and is located in Hamgyong Namdo province. Many of the subs are rusting brown with some in drydock. Some appear to be in service. You can even see the fore and aft escape hatches painted white. Sang-O is the same type of sub that washed up in the South back in 1996.

Nice site.

Doug said,

May 20, 2007 @ 8:58 pm

Looking at the Chik Tong DPRK Airfield (N3842.55, E12640.38), there is an aircraft on there that I can not identify.

It appears to have an F-104 Starfighter-type body, with VERY short and stubby wings. In the current (May 07) imagery, there are two in position for takeoff, sort of a poor-man’s alert parking facility, and two more just holding short.

I remember reading somewhere about an indigenously produced DPRK fighter aircraft, that the West has barely ever seen, and I am wondering if this might be it…

Joshua said,

May 21, 2007 @ 5:34 am

I don’t see high resolution at that location.

Chris said,

May 21, 2007 @ 5:21 pm

Joshua, try going to Google maps online. I believe they recently updated their imagery. I was looking at Pyongyang today and it looks like some is new (greenery).

When you type in the coordinates the base is just North of Google’s green arrow. There isn’t much of a runway.

F-104 is exactly what it looks like. It’s about the right length (54ft) and it’s low aspect ratio wing is set relatively far back from the nose.

There doesn’t appear to be any jet-blast marks behind them. It is possible they could be mockups, for what I don’t know.

It is also possible they may be real F-104s obtained from a third party (nation). The US did export them.

Bored Lurker said,

June 14, 2007 @ 4:46 pm

I surfed some airfields, and noted absence of skidmarks at runways. Are they actually flying their jets at all?

Valeri said,

June 18, 2007 @ 7:09 pm

There are two more undergroung hangars (for aircraft? for missiles?) at the location: 39°41′0.81″N, 125° 6′30.45″E.

Valeri said,

June 19, 2007 @ 5:29 am

Who knows what are some strange structures to the south-east of Pyongyang, looking like circularly placed cells?

Since I come from the former Soviet Union, I know for sure that in paranoiac communities (like Russia, etc.) such kind of bizarre constructions can equally well be missile launch sites, graves of ancient heroes, temples to worship Marx or Lenin, places of regular mass execution of ’social enemies’, standard villas for privileged citizens (of the classless society), labour camps, etc., etc. Who can tell?
I found 43 of them. Here are their coordinates:

38°56′27.47″N 125°39′51.08″E
38°56′28.95″N 125°46′44.11″E
38°56′29.28″N 125°40′30.01″E
38°56′29.44″N 125°52′33.34″E
38°56′34.26″N 125°45′48.36″E
38°56′39.27″N 125°39′38.86″E
38°56′58.68″N 125°51′22.88″E
38°57′25.42″N 125°45′40.31″E
38°57′26.55″N 125°51′58.84″E
38°57′29.30″N 125°52′09.69″E
38°57′32.36″N 125°47′04.20″E
38°57′35.68″N 125°40′49.32″E
38°57′41.47″N 125°51′49.82″E
38°57′51.78″N 125°52′44.59″E
38°57′53.05″N 125°52′35.24″E
38°58′03.97″N 125°53′13.30″E
38°58′05.71″N 125°49′01.15″E
38°58′05.71″N 125°49′01.15″E
38°58′32.86″N 125°53′13.94″E
38°58′33.05″N 125°41′24.68″E
38°58′49.48″N 125°54′36.20″E
38°58′51.43″N 125°53′22.15″E
38°58′54.85″N 125°51′31.62″E
38°59′00.74″N 125°54′15.47″E
38°59′02.99″N 125°53′37.86″E
38°59′07.10″N 125°54′16.86″E
38°59′16.68″N 125°53′10.37″E
38°59′29.38″N 125°54′28.79″E
38°59′29.78″N 125°49′22.94″E
38°59′31.59″N 125°53′22.36″E
39°00′00.81″N 125°54′12.57″E
39°00′19.47″N 125°54′56.71″E
39°00′19.65″N 125°53′40.03″E
39°00′32.36″N 125°50′44.02″E
39°00′45.08″N 125°55′13.11″E
39°00′49.30″N 125°51′22.49″E
39°01′02.56″N 125°55′13.94″E
39°01′11.28″N 125°52′55.96″E
39°01′16.32″N 125°55′02.54″E
39°01′19.03″N 125°54′10.49″E
39°01′19.33″N 125°54′03.37″E
39°01′22.51″N 125°51′25.77″E
39°01′40.69″N 125°54′28.76″E

Frankly, I do not think those structures to be something special, otherwise Global Security would have pointed at them already. Still they make me curious.

Bored Lurker said,

June 25, 2007 @ 3:39 pm

Looks very much like artillery and anti-aircraft weapons shrapnel shelters. Whole country is littered with them. They obviously plan to occupy those pits at wartime and fight till the bitter end.

As for privileged people’s villas I would expect something like this

39.5935655, 124.6175266
39.0321669, 125.8079875
39.0791976, 125.9444791
40.1943724, 128.6583186

Sunchon airfield seems to have skidmarks, sign of activity, and Pukchang airfield nearby also
39.4056447, 125.8962545

Societies are ridiculously dense.

Scrap metal business at port cities and slave-like labour camps near chinese border, is that what they trade to keep their army fueled?

Nik Su said,

August 9, 2007 @ 5:40 am

Appr. 30 helicopters at 39.550899 124.502310

Rand Millar said,

August 9, 2007 @ 10:19 am

The apparent identification of the visually unique F-104 Starfighter at Kim family regime airfields is interesting, for what it might indicate about Dear Leader’s dealings with parties abroad. His cooperation with A.Q. Khan and other senior-level people in pakistan is well-known, and the Pakistan Air Force did operate a few F-104s for some years. As per Warbirds of India http://www.warbirds.in/ovpak02.html, each airframe seems accounted for. Some years ago, there was an arrangement for the Republic of China govt on Taiwan to ship nuclear waste for disposal in Dear Leader’s realm. They operated far more F-104s than ever did Pakistan, and at about the time of the nuclear waste deal they were replacing the F-104s in operational service with F-16s. Who knows what ancillary matters peculiar to the fantasies of one man get handled in the last stages of a business negotiation?

pratt said,

August 11, 2007 @ 11:05 am

4: There are thirty of these blurry things, and if you can identify them, you know something I don’t. The don’t look like any of the older MiG or Sukhoi models. Could these be North Korea’s MiG-29’s? Or could they be something else entirely? The image quality isn’t good enough to even make a firm guess.

af-8-possible-mig-29s.jpg

Global Security identifies this location as the Headquarters of the 1st Air Combat Command, Kaechon AB.

WHOEVER POSTED THIS POST , IT IS FOR HIM.

THESE AIRCRAFT TO BE SURE :

MIG 29 UNTIL CHINA HAS GIVEN J -11 (SU 27) WHICH IS DOUBTFUL BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE AS CHINA GAVE PAK.
J - 10 DESPITE PAK. AIRCRAFT FAR BEHIND J 10
( F 16 C/D) BY TECHNOLOGY . REMEMBER DPRK KIM VISIT TO CHINA (SECRET ONE - BY TRAIN ETC.) ( THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE TO GIVE EMPHASIS TO MY POINT )

THESE AIRCRAFT YOU SHOWN ARE (MOSTLY ) MIG 29 BECAUSE THEY APPER TWIN ENGINE TWIN TAIL LIKE MIG 29 , THEY LOOK BIGGER THAN MIG 23 & 21 ALSO , SHORTER.

THE SECRET AIRFIELDS ETC. MIGHT BE USED ONLY DURING WAR TIME FOR TACTICAL DEPLOYMENT & MAY ONLY CONTAIN FEW MIG 29 (ADVANCED VERSION AFTER WEAPEAN PROLIFICATION 1992 ONWARD & MAY ALSO HAVE TWIN SEATED MIG 29 KUB ETC. )

THERE IS A POSSIBLY OF THESE BEING DUMMY MIGS TO GIVE ILLUSION OF NO SECRET AIRCRAFTS WHICH WILL COME OUT IN WAR TIME.

AS FAR AS CHINA CONCERNED , NO GUARANTEE IT MAY HAVE SECRETLY PASSED AIRCRAFTS TO CHINA WHICH MAY BE THERE.

Joshua said,

August 31, 2007 @ 10:28 pm

I absolutely don’t think they’re F-104’s, and I don’t think they’re MiG 29’s, either.

Nik Su said,

September 7, 2007 @ 9:14 am

Sorry Joshua,

my previous directions were taking you to somewhere else…
39 55′ 16.70″N, 124 49′ 59.00″E
Those should take you to the choppers (note the air field with choppers as well). Has some one already check them out already and know the function or name of the field? Was this location well known for all of you?

Nik Su said,

September 7, 2007 @ 9:33 am

I believe found helicopters could be Mi-2s (I count 28 and at least one of them has fueling truck at side).

Austin said,

September 19, 2007 @ 9:00 pm

Its really cool to finally get to see what the CIA gets to see.

Joshua said,

September 20, 2007 @ 5:11 am

That would be cool, but this resolution is no comparison to what they have.

Grensan said,

December 27, 2007 @ 12:38 am

The North Korean Air Force operates Mig-29’s and Mig-23″s for the primary defense of the capital area and Mig-21’s for coastal areas.
Additional Mig-19/F-6 and F-5’s are available for fighter/attack roles.

Grensan said,

December 27, 2007 @ 1:05 am

Hey guys, I went to the coords for the “f-104’s”, this is a dummy airfiled with fake aircraft set up near Koksan airfield. These are all over NK and set up to try to fake out the US/ROK planes into wasting bombs on decoys. Those f-104 are most likely plywood! A little farther to the north along that fake airfield in the “revetments” are a couple of items that kinda look like US f-4’s….. Oh well they sure try don’t they!!!

Joshua said,

December 27, 2007 @ 5:20 pm

That sounds like the most likely explanation to me. I doubt the NK’s ever got F-4’s or F-104’s, although they did acquire some OH-6 / Hughes 500 helicopters from the West Germans a few years ago.

toscha mijasik said,

January 6, 2008 @ 12:54 am

look at what i found,

about that f-104 like fighter you’re curious, there maybe an easter egg there.

find the aforementioned coordinates at Chik Tong Runway in google maps:

33 42′55.00″N, 126 40′38.00″E

if typed correctly, the arrow will land SMACK AT THE CENTER of the two fighters in position for take-off. i was reading a comment about the base being north of the green arrow, and when i came back to the image, i was shocked to see that the coordinates lead directly to the unknown planes.

as for the planes, i still wonder what the heck are they, though i doubt it for some reasons. first, if they’re really f-104s, then how come the DPRK got them? as for now, the answer for that is beyond me. second, if those are fighters, then how are they able to take off from a barren field like that. and third, is the base even real. the base has no real runway, has no skid marks, and has only embankments for the aircraft, though the sight of what seem to be mig-21s on the other side of the field maybe convincing.

that all i can give to this issue, and i would like to thank the person who sent the coordinates for Chik Tong field.

toscha said,

January 6, 2008 @ 1:45 am

to the author,

i have located a large, empty base in the southwestern part of North Korea. you recent update about an empty base in the southwestern coast somewhat accurately fits the description of the base i found.

According to wikipedia, on its article about the Korean People’s Air Force (North Korean Air Force), which lists the airfields and their coordinates, the said airbase is Taetan. the short wikipedia description is as follows:

“Taetan- Air Regiment (3 ACC) (F-5/FT-5/H-5)*. In October 1995 due to rising military tension, more than 20 Il-28 bombers were moved to Taetan which shortened their arrival to Seoul from 30 minutes to 10 minutes”

*- Since North Korea has no F-5 Freedom Fighters, the F-5 might translate to J-5 or the chinese version of the Mig-17, the F being for Fighter, the second plane might be trainer version of the aforementioned aircraft (thus FT, fighter-trainer) and the H-5 is an accurate transliteration for the Il-28s (H-5 and Il-28 are the same, H-5 being the chinese version).

this base is strangely designed. there is an extremely long taxiway. in fact it is so long, it is longer than the runway itself. the taxiway runs east-west almost directly (09/27). at the eastern end of the taxiway lies the runway, which runs west from the eastern end. however, the runway is somewhat off parallel of the taxiway. going west, the taxiway turns south west, then another one branches off from the former. both eventually lead up to an underground hangar, which the taxiways meet up underground, forming a teardrop-shaped road network.

as for activity, the base is quiet. My recent view of that base shows 14 fighter planes that blend into the surrounding land located in the taxiway near the runway, only visible at the lowest possible zoom. A reason for this is that the fighter maybe just sitting there and rotting. As for the Il-28s, they’re obviously hidden in the shelter, for obvious reasons. Apart from that there is no visible activity on the runway. you can’t tell it from the skidmarks, because its built on tiles. The North Koreans might replace some of the tiles, while some are still darkened due to age.

the mi-26 helicopters shocked me, because before, i didn’t know the North Koreans even had them. This reminded me of the video game “Mercenaries” which took place in Korea. the game had mi-26s as a vehicle, though it was operated by the Russian Mafia, not the North Koreans.

The pictures, all in all, were great. i hope you put in other pictures as well.

Grensan said,

January 7, 2008 @ 12:26 pm

Toscha, ref my Dec 27 post; this is a “fake” or dummy airfield. These are either plywood or inflatable aircraft. The “airfield” is all sod or dirt. There are a number of such fake airfields all over N. Korea.
As a photo anaylst for 20 years I worked in Korea for 7 years and looked at these often.

Educated Observer said,

January 8, 2008 @ 10:55 pm

The “fake” airfield is most likely a target training complex and those are mockups of ROKAF F-5E and F-4 fighters. There appear to be filled in bomb craters on the runway. This facility is most likely used for training either aircrews in attaking ROK airfields or for special forces training for attacking airfields.

Huyovsk said,

April 19, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

Having served a commie airforce, I can tell you my preliminary observations:
1. Each base houses an AF regiment (30-60 airplanes, depending on the type); it’s curious that every sngle base has only one RWY, which makes them pretty vulnerable to attacks.
2. If you see 2 planes apart from the rest of the lot, they are probably the quick reaction alert “pair”; now, judging from the size of the NK territory, it would be logical that they would normally maintain 4-5 QRA pairs.
3. The Il-28s are based at the Uiju airfield
4. The MiG-23s are based in Pukchang AB, and they also have two MiG-23s on aler, which makes sense, since it’s one of th most modern planes in their inventory. From the photo, there certainly are tunnels that serve as shelters for the aircraft in case of an attack. If you want to see how it might look like, just go to Youtube, and type “Zeljava” in the search bar, and this is how it might look like inside; however, former Yugoslavia was way more affluent and technologically advanced than NK, therefore, it would’t be a surprise if these bases are more spartan than the Yugoslav one.
5. They don’t fly much
6. The infrastructure in and around bases seems (i.e. housing, hangars, maintenance facilities, recreational facilities, etc) abysmal.
7. Elite regiments that operate MiG-23s, MiG-29s and Su-25s are probably branded as “Guard” or “Sniper”.

This is an excellent topic, congratulations! :)

Huyovsk said,

April 19, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

Having served a commie airforce, I can tell you my preliminary observations:
1. Each base houses an AF regiment (30-60 airplanes, depending on the type); it’s curious that every sngle base has only one RWY, which makes them pretty vulnerable to attacks.
2. If you see 2 planes apart from the rest of the lot, they are probably the quick reaction alert “pair”; now, judging from the size of the NK territory, it would be logical that they would normally maintain 4-5 QRA pairs.
3. The Il-28s are based at the Uiju airfield
4. The MiG-23s are based in Pukchang AB, and they also have two MiG-23s on aler, which makes sense, since it’s one of th most modern planes in their inventory. From the photo, there certainly are tunnels that serve as shelters for the aircraft in case of an attack. If you want to see how it might look like, just go to Youtube, and type “Zeljava” in the search bar, and this is how it might look like inside; however, former Yugoslavia was way more affluent and technologically advanced than NK, therefore, it would’t be a surprise if these bases are more spartan than the Yugoslav one.
5. They don’t fly much
6. The infrastructure in and around bases seems (i.e. housing, hangars, maintenance facilities, recreational facilities, etc) abysmal.
7. Elite regiments that operate MiG-23s, MiG-29s and Su-25s are probably branded as “Guard” or “Sniper”.

This is an excellent topic, congratulations! :)

Huyovsk said,

April 19, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

Having served a commie airforce, I can tell you my preliminary observations:
1. Each base houses an AF regiment (30-60 airplanes, depending on the type); it’s curious that every sngle base has only one RWY, which makes them pretty vulnerable to attacks.
2. If you see 2 planes apart from the rest of the lot, they are probably the quick reaction alert “pair”; now, judging from the size of the NK territory, it would be logical that they would normally maintain 4-5 QRA pairs.
3. The Il-28s are based at the Uiju airfield
4. The MiG-23s are based in Pukchang AB, and they also have two MiG-23s on aler, which makes sense, since it’s one of th most modern planes in their inventory. From the photo, there certainly are tunnels that serve as shelters for the aircraft in case of an attack. If you want to see how it might look like, just go to Youtube, and type “Zeljava” in the search bar, and this is how it might look like inside; however, former Yugoslavia was way more affluent and technologically advanced than NK, therefore, it would’t be a surprise if these bases are more spartan than the Yugoslav one.
5. They don’t fly much
6. The infrastructure in and around bases seems (i.e. housing, hangars, maintenance facilities, recreational facilities, etc) abysmal.
7. Elite regiments that operate MiG-23s, MiG-29s and Su-25s are probably branded as “Guard” or “Sniper”.

This is an excellent topic, congratulations! :)

Joshiua said,

April 19, 2008 @ 10:18 pm

Huyovsk, Very interesting comment. I take it you served in the former Yugoslav Air Force. Can you tell us more about your background?

huyovsk said,

April 20, 2008 @ 1:56 pm

Thanks! :)
I was an officer, but now I work as a software developer :)
Check this one out too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyxEt0UQIOA

huyovsk said,

April 28, 2008 @ 8:45 am

Yet another oddity, check it out: I have never seen such a small number of navaids anywhere else in the world: http://www.worldaerodata.com/nav/DemPeoples_Repof_Korea.php

Dragases said,

May 10, 2008 @ 10:08 pm

I learned North Korea possesses Mi-24 Hind-D gunships. If possible, can you find them?

Joshua said,

May 11, 2008 @ 7:56 am

They can be difficult to distinguish from Mi-8’s from above.

Lord Reptor said,

May 22, 2008 @ 3:13 pm

Superinteresting work. Interesting comments also. Just to address one small point in your post (unless someone else has already pointed this out) - the lack of helicopter power would not be too much of a disadvantage in a counter-insurgent/revolutionary/terrorist/what-have-you role for NK if they did indeed have a good lot of those AN-2 biplanes (or old Polikarpovs, or more modern light attack propcraft, etc) - you can do pretty terrifyingly effective crowd control with planes like that.

I bet they don’t have too too much trouble with revolutionaries. Anyone who leads them is going to have to be paranoid and militant anyway - otherwise they would quickly have no country and be making clothes cheap for the Chinese under American/South Korean management. And they would still be hungry, too.

Again, thanks for the great post.

P.S. I bet they don’t fly much. I expect testing their engines and blowing the cobwebs out is expensive enough. That said, I bet they have a good solid battle reserve of kerosene packed away in lightless caverns somewhere. I would if I was them, and I’d leak its existence, too.

P.P.S. How paranoid would you be if your train ride to China resulted in a blast that levelled acres? Lucky Kim taking Decoy Train #7 instead of #3 or whatever.

Wasting time on the web when I should be out weeding,
Lord Reptor.

Rhesus said,

May 22, 2008 @ 6:06 pm

“And they would still be hungry, too.”

Passive aggressive idiot post #230,345,213

RTTY said,

May 26, 2008 @ 9:05 am

@ Lord reptor
Yes, in every base they have testbeds for engine trials, like everywhere else. How did I conclude that they don’t fly much? Well, it’s easy:
1. Check out any other base, anywhere in the world, and one can see a large number of vehicles (i.e. mobile power generators, kerosene trucks, service vehicles, buses, towing tractors, etc.). Here, there are none whatsoever.
2. Supporting infrastucture is practically non-existent
3. Where on earth do they live? Around bases, there’s nothing but huts, shacks and small buildings…
4. The age of the bulk of their air force implies that they have to keep their flying hours low, in order to preserve their airframes.

Maybe this is how it looks like, Albania has built a similar base in Kucove, near the city of Berat.
http://www.baes.org.uk/reports/albain06.htm

Ray said,

October 31, 2008 @ 12:25 pm

39°01′03.69″N 125°50′43.55″E
This look like the old airfield? Can anybody tell me about this?

39°24′43.18″N 125°53′26.34″E
Decoy military plane (pant on runway)

40°28′55.49″N 125°49′33.26″E
Dam (no Hydro power)

40°04′26.99″N 124°32′52.90″E
Oil Tanks

42°41′23.50″N 130°12′17.14″E
Steel Mill ?

Ray said,

November 6, 2008 @ 7:37 am

Here is the great scoure of information by military research. Their web site is:

http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/

Many book of pdf are free to download. I used search of North Korea and it list over 100 books.

EagleEye said,

April 22, 2009 @ 2:21 am

From what I know, the Aircraft on this “airfield”: 38 42′55.00″N, 126 40′38.00″E, are not real but mock-ups, and very poor ones at that, they are suppost to be F-104s and what Appear to be F-16 Falcons or A-4 Skyhawks, but not F-4 Phantom II’s. That should confirm what several others have said. As to the others posted here that people are asking about, I couldn’t say.

Jim said,

June 14, 2009 @ 9:10 am

What you think are MiG-29’s and Mil-26’s are classic examples of poorly built and placed decoys. Why would you park that many of a highly prized airframe in North Korea so close and unprotected? I can assure you that North Korean leaders are not entirely stupid. Any newer equipment is more than likely stored in protected underground facilities, away from the elements and peering eyes of the good guys.

Joshua Stanton said,

June 14, 2009 @ 9:12 am

What specific characteristics in the images (or other specific reasons) cause you to conclude that they’re decoys? Also, I did not find any MiG-29’s.

ws said,

September 5, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

I think they have most of valuable aicraft in underground bases. But they must have some airplanes on ground - for sattelites eyes. If they can buy md-500 on black market - they probably may have also some newest experimental stealth china airplanes(but in single numbers) in mountain bases. Don’t matter about trucks or homes for pilots - they probably life (like in survival) caves, and are happy that have some food for eat. They lack in energy, fuel - so probably they are transporting fuel using some underground tunnels(they have the deepest metro in the world so they known technology ) -not too often, but they don’t need it. Probably the pilots are very bad trained (there was only 4 documented escapes by North Korean pilots) and they flight some times using old equipment - some of them we see(check wikipedia - the most training aircrafts are not jets- lack of fuel). I think they have stored every tank, vehicle, and rifle from korean war - maybe the next war in korea (when USA locate and find way how to fast destroy missiles, and nuclear plants deep in mountains) will be the last war of large numbers of t34 driven by fanatic koreans - that believe that this will destroy usa “trash tanks” (maybe propaganda use the photo from 30s when USarmy have trucks with “tank” sign written on white sheet;-) . Transport in North Korea are probably very based on trains (maybe they have large number of armoured trains from Soviets?) and…foots, bicycles. I think they don’t have good hackers - lack of computers/mobile (and blackouts) phones and no money to hire large good staff like China. Maybe it’s look like joke - but I think they more want peace than China or South Korea. Generals, the highest only probably known the truth about they army - the nuclear test are like desperate attemps to show that they can protect they territory. They can’t count on China now - okay they are doing business with them, but China are investing in whole world, and whole world now buy some China products. If they will be conventional war probably there will die 5-10 millions of Koreans in first weeks, after last fanatic run - and after that (and escape of all highest rank officials) they will go on fields wandering for food, water. Maybe some fanatic generals will hide in mountain caves and they will find them after 20-40 years…
-sorry for my english-i’m sleeping now, and not native speaker

wds2 said,

September 5, 2009 @ 6:33 pm

I think they have most of valuable aicraft in underground bases. But they must have some airplanes on ground - for sattelites eyes. If they can buy md-500 on black market - they probably may have also some newest experimental stealth china airplanes(but in single numbers) in mountain bases. Don’t matter about trucks or homes for pilots - they probably life (like in survival) caves, and are happy that have some food for eat. They lack in energy, fuel - so probably they are transporting fuel using some underground tunnels(they have the deepest metro in the world so they known technology ) -not too often, but they don’t need it. Probably the pilots are very bad trained (there was only 4 documented escapes by North Korean pilots) and they flight some times using old equipment - some of them we see(check wikipedia - the most training aircrafts are not jets- lack of fuel). I think they have stored every tank, vehicle, and rifle from korean war - maybe the next war in korea (when USA locate and find way how to fast destroy missiles, and nuclear plants deep in mountains) will be the last war of large numbers of t34 driven by fanatic koreans - that believe that this will destroy usa “trash tanks” (maybe propaganda use the photo from 30s when USarmy have trucks with “tank” sign written on white sheet;-) . Transport in North Korea are probably very based on trains (maybe they have large number of armoured trains from Soviets?) and…foots, bicycles. I think they don’t have good hackers - lack of computers/mobile (and blackouts) phones and not money to hire large good staff like China. Maybe it’s look like joke - but I think they more want peace than China or South Korea. Generals, the highest only probably known the truth about they army - the nuclear test are like desperate attemps to show that they can protect they territory. They can’t count on China now - okay they are doing business with them, but China are investing in whole world, and whole world now buy some China products. If they will be conventional war probably there will die 5-10 millions of Koreans in first weeks, after last fanatic run - and after that (and escape of all highest rank officials) they will go on fields wandering for food, water. Maybe some fanatic generals will hide in mountain caves and they will find them after 20-40 years…
-sorry for my english-i’m sleeping now, and not native speaker

Johno said,

December 6, 2009 @ 12:22 am

more helicopters can be found at 39 11 30.08 N 125 40 13.55 E (south west end of Sunan International Airport)

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